Don't Feel Sorry For Cindy Sheehan
Monday, November 28, 2005 at 09:42PM Cindy Sheehan on Friday, November 25, was in Crawford, TX at a signing, promoting her book, ‘Not One More Mother’s Child’. This is how AP showed the event:
In reality, it is unclear if anyone showed up for an autographed copy of the book. The AP also released these:
It has been suggested that it’s tasteless to gloat. Maybe we should feel sorry for Cindy Sheehan, since all of us have at one point or other been embarrassed. Here’s why people should NOT feel sorry for Cindy Sheehan according to Cao:
"Maybe she should stop dancing on her son’s grave to celebrate another soldier’s death. She is applauded by the American Nazi party for saying her son was killed for Israel. She has been traveling with Code Pink, the group of American Marxists who gave $600,000 to the terrorists in Fallujah to what? To kill more American soldiers. She spoke at San Francisco U with Lynn Stewart, who was recently convicted of conspiracy and for passing along fatwas (Islamic religious edicts) from Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman to his terrorist followers in Egypt’s Islamic Group. Rahman is the blind sheikh responsible for the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993 that left six Americans dead and more than 1,000 people injured.
Her family has denounced her and her husband sued her for divorce while she was in the ditch in Crawford.
This isn’t a greiving mother. A greiving mother doesn’t take the pictures of dead soldiers without their families’ permission and put them up for everyone to see as an example of all the people who supposedly died because "Bush lied".
Casey Sheehan deserves better than this. He signed up for a second tour and was in the rear, but volunteered for the mission he was killed in, saying "where my chief goes, I go."
His mother doesn’t even honor what he felt, that he volunteered or anything else. She is despicable.
(read her disgusting Open Letter to George’s Mama via Michael Moore)
Feel sorry for Cindy? Not this Army wife.
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If he said he does, then maybe I could!
Charles Krauthammer from the Washington Post recently wrote a good article about Cindy Sheehan (Bad Choice for an Antiwar Voice, September 30, 2005). In it he points out that despite the fact Maureen Dowd claims Sheehan's "moral authority" on the war is "absolute" he goes on to say, "And if Sheehan speaks with absolute moral authority, then so does Diane Ibbotson - and the other mothers who have lost sons in Iraq yet continue to support the mission their sons died for and bitterly oppose Sheehan for discrediting it."
Still sad about the first one...but she asked for the rest. I read that nonsense of hers on Michael "Fat 'n' Hype" Moore's website (letters to George Bush and his Mom).
Pathetic really is the best word for this woman.
In her defense, I did find this article about the event.
http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001572310
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Antiwar activist Cindy Sheehan and her book publisher are upset about Associated Press and Reuters photos that allegedly presented a misleading impression of her book signing last weekend in Texas.
Sheehan, whose soldier son was killed in Iraq, gained wide fame last summer in an antiwar protest near President Bush's ranch in Crawford, Texas, and then in a march in Washington, D.C. She returned to Crawford last week for a Thanskgiving protest. Her new book, “Not One More Mother's Child,” had just been published, and her publisher organized a book signing in a large tent in Crawford on Saturday.
Photos of the event, carried widely on the Web, and then picked up by conservative blogs, seemed to imply that the book signing was a bust. The photos showed Sheehan looking dejected, sitting at a table, with no one in the tent except for a couple of photographers. The AP caption simply read: “Anti-war activist CindySheehan waits for people to show up at her book signing near President Bush's ranch on Saturday, Nov. 26, 2005 in Crawford, Texas.”
The Washington Post, which carried Evan Vucci's AP photo, noted that at a protest the same day Sheehan had addressed a crowd of only about 100. “In the morning,” the Post observed, “Sheehan signed copies of her new book, being published this week, for an even smaller crowd,” although it cited bad weather as a possible factor.
But in a statement today, Sheehan accused “right-wing” sites of “spreading a false story that nobody bought my book at Camp Casey on Saturday. That is not true, I sold all 100 copies and got writer's cramp signing them. Photos were taken of me before the people got in line to have me sign the book. We made $2000 for the peace house.”
Her publisher, Arnie Kotler at Koa Books, meanwhile released a letter to her supporters, charging that “AP and Reuters posted photos - I can't imagine why - of Cindy sitting at the book table between signings, rather than while someone was at the table. And now the smear websites are circulating an article, with these photos, that Cindy gave a signing and nobody came. It's simply not true…. the benefit books signing in Crawford, Texas on November 26, 2005 was well attended and a huge success.”
Asked for a response, an AP spokesman commented this afternoon:
"Photographer Evan Vucci, queried about the incident today said that he was present at the book signing from about 10 a.m. to about 11 a.m. During that time, he said, people were coming in to have their books signed in small groups of a few at a time.
"At the time the photos were taken 'maybe 5 people had come in,' Vucci says, and Sheehan was waiting for more to stop by, which they did individually as well as in very small groups. Therefore the wording of the caption is accurate in that Sheehan was waiting for people to show up at her signing."
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With that said, when I crashed her party here in town a couple months ago, her support was minimal. Most of the people at the rally, estimated to be about 150 by police reports (and I was there, that figure was high... it was more like 100) were her entourage. They were not people provoked by her efforts. In fact, the local peacenuts we counter protest every Wed. night were all there and they made up a chunk of the crowd. Throw in about 10 reports and passers by who were not supportive but curious, and there's your "150" people. Her support was poor.
And no wonder. The kind of things she had to say were conceived in either deception or stupidity. Make levees, not war? The insurgents in Iraq are freedom fighters? This is a war about oil? "Georgie" is responsible for Katrina? Oh, and not to mention that she lied about Ruth and I on Michael Moore's website, saying she invited us (as counter protesters) to talk with her afterwards but we bailed. That's a bald faced lie. I suspect the other incidents she has spoken of are lies, too, like that other various counter protesters had no answer for her when she pointed out how wrong the war is, etc. Counter protesters and those supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom are very well informed and have the facts on our side.
No wonder no one supports her. Just a few fringe leftists. Her 15 minutes are just about up. She
Btw, where are her followers and liberal allies?
Got to love those pictures......
AubreyJ.........
Then again, I suppose a bit of humiliation might be a good thing for her in the long run.
I did find it odd that AP would choose these photos, as I thought that, the MSM being what it is, they would have chosen a close-up of her signing a book. Perhaps she has ticked them off in some way?
Tom, I posted an AP (Associated Press) article above that outlines Cindy's side of the story, that it was actually a huge success, and that the AP photographer was there from 10-11 am. That was what was happening on the ground (so to speak) at that time. She claims it picked up afterwards.
Congressman Randy "Duke" Cunningham admitted taking more than $2.4 million in bribes from defense contractors and had to step down. How come no posts about him?
http://amyproctor.squarespace.com/blog/2005/11/27/the-real-iraq.html
I wrote this over there:
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"Mr. Doobie, if you want to take one very repentant politician (from California, no less) and put the reputation of the Republican Party on him, that says more about yourself than Randy Cunningham. And the game of tit-for-tat can go on and on, and I'd surely win. You have NOTHING on the VP, Scooter Libby or Tom DeLay and in reality, none of them have done anything wrong, so it appears. Your big chance at finger wagging is going down the drain fast. Meanwhile, let's rewind to the last Democratic Presidency and look at the real crimes and reputation of the Democratic Party. We're talking perjury, impeachment...... That isn't even to mention the various Dem. Governors, Senators and Congressmen who have been caught with their pants down, lying, cheating, stealing......
Since basic morality probably doesn't concern you (unless it relates to Republicans), here's the former NJ Gov. James E. McGreevey who was having an affair with a guy (to the surprise of his wife and kids) he met in Israel (a poet, how sweet). Here are the details:
"Golan Cipel, McGreevey's former lover, served in the governor's administration and earned $110,000 a year as homeland security adviser, several New Jersey political sources said. But Cipel, a published poet and a native of Israel, resigned after it was discovered that he had exaggerated his credentials, and he has since moved from one politically connected business to another.
Cipel, 33, threatened this week to publicize his affair with McGreevey, said a former aide to the governor. The aide and others in Trenton said Cipel is expected to file a sexual-harassment lawsuit against McGreevey this week. Washington Post reporters' efforts to reach Cipel for comment were unsuccessful.
"New Jersey isn't the Bible Belt," said Cliff Zukin, a professor of public policy at Rutgers University. "The governor only told us he was gay because he knew something untenable was coming down the road."
McGreevey faces other political problems. In the past two months, federal prosecutors in Newark have indicted two men who are top fundraisers for him. McGreevey's name appears 83 times in the indictment of one of the men, and Cipel recently worked for the other fundraiser. "
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61170-2004Aug12.html
So Mr. Oobie-Doobie, I can get into Presidential politics starting with Bill and Hillary, then go down to the Senate and Congress if you'd like."
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then go on to Bill Frist,
Karl Rove
the looming scandals from Jack Abramoff's dealings
As far as I am concerned, Clinton's failing with Lewinsky or an affair are minor compared to the rampant corruption of Bush's administration.
But I don't think I have ever seen you adress the fact that most people that supported Bush are now expressing dissaproval towards his admistration (according to the polls) and consider him dishonest.
It took 2 years of constant probing the "rampant corruption of Bush's administration" to come up with virtually nothing. Nothing on Karl Rove, a fake scandal with the outting of CIA agent Valeria Plame (turns out she wasn't actually covert at the time nor did Libby do the outting) and charges against Tom DeLay which are looking weaker by the moment. Word has it that if he is fully exhonerated, which is what will likely happen, the tables will be turned on the prosecutor for trumping up false charges and HE will be charged with a crime.
Give up on Karl Rove, he's not guilty of anything. Same with Libby. And what is it that makes Democratic crimes someone inferior to Republican charges? In other words, you have a Dem. Pres who was IMPEACHED, charged with perjury, losing his law license, and somehow he's holier than a President of upstanding morale character who relied on global intellegence regarding WMD, even though WMD weren't the only nor main reason for going to Iraq? Talk about a double standard. A Republican is hung before he's even tried and Dems are, "Well, it's only sex he lied about (Forget the FACT that he admitted lying... or.... lying is only bad if you THINK a Republican did it, whether true or not, but insignificant if a Democrat does it). I think I get the game plan here.
I'd be interested to hear a real case made for how the administration is corrupt. No conspiracy theories, I'm suggesting facts and evidence.
What about the Vince Foster mess? How about Sandy Burger
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/07/20/berger.probe/index.html
and the infamous stuffing of Clinton's after reaction reviews down his pants? (that's called theft, although he returned what he didn't shred)
How about the finance scandals that plagued the Clinton administration, including when the VP Al Gore accepted a large illegal donation from Buddist monks?
Here's some more:
William Jefferson Clinton- Impeached by the House of Representatives over allegations of perjury and obstruction of justice, but acquitted by the Senate. Scandals include Whitewater - Travelgate Gennifer Flowersgate - Filegate - Vince Fostergate - Whitewater Billing Recordsgate - Paula Jonesgate- Lincoln Bedroomgate - Donations from Convicted Drug and Weapons Dealersgate - Lippogate - Chinagate - The Lewinsky Affair - Perjury and Jobs for Lewinskygate - Kathleen Willeygate - Web Hubbell Prison Phone Callgate - Selling Military Technology to the Chinesegate - Jaunita Broaddrick Gate - Lootergate - Pardongate
Edward Moore Kennedy - Democrat - U. S. Senator from Massachusetts. Pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, after his car plunged off a bridge on Chappaquiddick Island killing passenger Mary Jo Kopechne.
Barney Frank - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1981 to present. Admitted to having paid Stephen L. Gobie, a male prostitute, for sex and subsequently hiring Gobie as his personal assistant. Gobie used the congressman's Washington apartment for prostitution. A move to expel Frank from the House of Representatives failed and a motion to censure him failed.
DNC - The Federal Election Commission imposed $719,000 in fines against participants in the 1996 Democratic Party fundraising scandals involving contributions from China, Korea and other foreign sources. The Federal Election Commission said it decided to drop cases against contributors of more than $3 million in illegal DNC contributions because the respondents left the country or the corporations are defunct.
Sandy Berger - Democrat - National Security Advisor during the Clinton Administration. Berger became the focus of a criminal investigation after removing highly classified terrorism documents and handwritten notes from the National Archives during preparations for the Sept. 11 commission hearings.
Robert Torricelli - Democrat - Withdrew from the 2002 Senate race with less than 30 days before the election because of controversy over personal gifts he took from a major campaign donor and questions about campaign donations from 1996.
James McGreevey - Democrat - New Jersey Governor . Admitted to having a gay affair. Resigned after allegations of sexual harassment, rumors of being blackmailed on top of fundraising investigations and indictments.
Jesse Jackson - Democrat - Democratic candidate for President. Admitted to having an extramarital affair and fathering a illegitimate child.
Gary Condit - Democrat - US Democratic Congressman from California. Condit had an affair with an intern. Condit, covered up the affair and lied to police after she went missing. No charges were ever filed against Condit. Her remains were discovered in a Washington DC park..
Sowande Ajumoke Omokunde - Democrat - the son of newly elected U.S. Rep. Gwen Moore, was booked on charges of criminal damage to property for allegedly slashing tires on 20 vans and cars rented by the Republican Party for use in Election Day voter turnout efforts.
Daniel David Rostenkowski - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Illinois from 1959 to 1995. Indicted on 17 felony charges- pleaded guilty to two counts of misuse of public funds and sentenced to seventeen months in federal prison.
Melvin Jay Reynolds - U.S. Representative from Illinois from 1993 to 1995. Convicted on sexual misconduct and obstruction of justice charges and sentenced to five years in prison.
Charles Coles Diggs, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Michigan from 1955 to 1980. Convicted on eleven counts of mail fraud and filing false payroll forms- sentenced to three years in prison.
George Rogers - Democrat - Massachusetts State House of Representatives from 1965 to 1970. M000ember of Massachusetts State Senate from 1975 to 1978. Convicted of bribery in 1978 and sentenced to two years in prison.
Don Siegelman - Democrat Governor Alabama - indicted in a bid-rigging scheme involving a maternity-care program. The charges accused Siegelman and his former chief of staff of helping Tuscaloosa physician Phillip Bobo rig bids. Siegelman was accused of moving $550,000 from the state education budget to the State Fire College in Tuscaloosa so Bobo could use the money to pay off a competitor for a state contract for maternity care.
John Murtha, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania. Implicated in the Abscam sting, in which FBI agents impersonating Arab businessmen offered bribes to political figures; Murtha was cited as an unindicted co-conspirator
Gerry Eastman Studds - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1973 to 1997. The first openly gay member of Congress. Censured by the House of Representatives for having sexual relations with a teenage House page.
James C. Green - Democrat - North Carolina State House of Representatives from 1961 to 1977. Charged with accepting a bribe from an undercover FBI agent, but was acquitted. Convicted of tax evasion in 1997.
Frederick Richmond - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New York from 1975 to 1982. Arrested in Washington, D.C., in 1978 for soliciting sex from a minor and from an undercover police officer - pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor. Also - charged with tax evasion, marijuana possession, and improper payments to a federal employee - pleaded guilty.
Raymond Lederer - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania from 1977 to 1981. Implicated in the Abscam sting - convicted of bribery and sentenced to three years in prison and fined $20,000.
Harrison Arlington Williams, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Senator from New Jersey from 1959 to 1970. Implicated in the Abscam sting. Allegedly accepted an 18% interest in a titanium mine. Convicted of nine counts of bribery, conspiracy, receiving an unlawful gratuity, conflict of interest, and interstate travel in aid of racketeering. Sentenced to three years in prison and fined $50,000.
Frank Thompson, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New Jersey from 1955 to 1980. Implicated in the Abscam sting, convicted on bribery and conspiracy charges. Sentenced to three years in prison
Michael Joseph Myers - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania from 1976 to 1980. Implicated in the Abscam sting - convicted of bribery and conspiracy; sentenced to three years in prison and fined $20,000; expelled from the House of Representatives on October 2, 1980.
John Michael Murphy - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New York from 1963 to 1981. Implicated in the Abscam sting. Convicted of conspiracy, conflict of interest, and accepting an illegal gratuity. Sentenced to three years in prison and fined $20,000.
John Wilson Jenrette, Jr - Democrat - U.S. Representative from South Carolina from 1975 to 1980. Implicated in the Abscam sting. Convicted on bribery and conspiracy charges and sentenced to prison
Neil Goldschmidt - Democrat - Oregon governor. Admitted to having an illegal sexual relationship with a 14-year-old teenager while he was serving as Mayor of Portland.
Alcee Lamar Hastings - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Florida. Impeached and removed from office as federal judge in 1989 over bribery charges.
Marion Barry - Democrat - mayor of Washington, D.C., from 1979 to 1991 and again from 1995 to 1999. Convicted of cocaine possession after being caught on videotape smoking crack cocaine. Sentenced to six months in prison.
Mario Biaggi - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New York from 1969 to 1988. Indicted on federal charges that he had accepted bribes in return for influence on federal contracts.Convicted of obstructing justice and accepting illegal gratuities. Tried in 1988 on federal racketeering charges and convicted on 15 felony counts.
Lee Alexander - Democrat - Mayor of Syracuse, N.Y. from 1970 to 1985. Was indicted over a $1.5 million kickback scandal. Pleaded guilty to racketeering and tax evasion charges. Served six years in prison.
Bill Campbell - Democrat - Mayor of Atlanta. Indicted and charged with fraud over claims he accepted improper payments from contractors seeking city contracts.
Frank Ballance - Democrat - Congressman North Carolina. Pleaded guilty to one charge of conspiracy to commit mail fraud and money laundering related to mishandling of money by his charitable foundation.
Hazel O'Leary - Democrat - Secretary of Energy during the Clinton Administration - O'leary took trips all over the world as Secretary with as many 50 staff members and at times rented a plane, which was used by Madonna during her concert tours.
Lafayette Thomas - Democrat - Candidate for Tennessee State House of Representatives in 1954. Sheriff of Davidson County, from 1972 to 1990. Indicted in federal court on 54 counts of abusing his power as sheriff. Pleaded guilty to theft and mail fraud; sentenced to five years in prison.
Mary Rose Oakar - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Ohio from 1977 to 1993. Pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor charges of funneling $16,000 through fake donors.
David Giles - Democrat - candidate for U.S. Representative from Washington in 1986 and 1990. Convicted in June 2000 of child rape.
Edward Mezvinsky - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Iowa from 1973 to 1977. Indicted on 56 federal fraud charges.
Lena Swanson - Democrat - Member of Washington State Senate in 1997. Pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting unlawful payments from veterans and former prisoners of war.
Abraham J. Hirschfeld - Democrat - candidate in Democratic primary for U.S. Senator from New York in 1974 and 1976. Offered Paula Jones $1 million to drop her sexual harassment lawsuit against President Bill Clinton. Convicted in 2000 of trying to hire a hit man to kill his business partner.
Henry Cisneros - Democrat - U.S. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development from 1993 to 1997. Pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of lying to the FBI.
James A. Traficant Jr. - Member of House of Representatives from Ohio. Expelled from Congress after being convicted of corruption charges. Sentenced today to eight years in prison for accepting bribes and kickbacks.
John Doug Hays - Democrat - member of Kentucky State Senate from 1980 to 1982 Found guilty of mail fraud for submitting false campaign reports stemming from an unsuccessful run for judge. He was sentenced to six months in prison to be followed by six months of home confinement and three years of probation.
Henry J. Cianfrani - Democrat - Pennsylvania State Senate from 1967 to 1976. Convicted on federal charges of racketeering and mail fraud for padding his Senate payroll. Sentenced to five years in federal prison.
David Hall - Democrat - Governor of Oklahoma from 1971 to 1975. Indicted on extortion and conspiracy charges. Convicted and sentenced to three years in prison.
John A. Celona - Democrat - A former state senator was charged with the three counts of mail fraud. Federal prosecutors accused him of defrauding the state and collecting hundreds of thousands of dollars from CVS Corp. and others while serving in the legislature. Celona has agreed to plead guilty to taking money from the CVS pharmacy chain and other companies that had interest in legislation. Under the deal, Celona agreed to cooperate with investigators. He faces up to five years in federal prison on each of the three counts and a $250,000 fine
Allan Turner Howe - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Utah from 1975 to 1977. Arrested for soliciting a policewoman posing as a prostitute.
Jerry Cosentino - Democrat - Illinois State Treasurer. Pleaded guilty to bank fraud - fined $5,000 and sentenced to nine months home confinement.
Joseph Waggonner Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Louisiana from 1961 to 19 79. Arrested in Washington, D.C. for soliciting a policewoman posing as a prostitute
Albert G. Bustamante - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Texas from 1985 to 1993. Convicted in 1993 on racketeering and bribery charges and sentenced to prison.
Lawrence Jack Smith - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Florida from 1983 to 1993. Sentenced to three months in federal prison for tax evasion.
David Lee Walters - Democrat - Governor of Oklahoma from 1991 to 1995. Pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor election law violation.
James Guy Tucker, Jr. - Democrat - Governor of Arkansas from 1992 to 1996. Resigned in July 1996 after conviction on federal fraud charges as part of the Whitewater investigation.
Walter Rayford Tucker - Democrat - Mayor of Compton, California from 1991 to 1992; U.S. Representative from California from 1993 to 1995. Sentenced to 27 months in prison for extortion and tax evasion.
William McCuen - Democrat - Secretary of State of Arkansas from 1985 to 1995. Admitted accepting kickbacks from two supporters he gave jobs, and not paying taxes on the money. Admitted to conspiring with a political consultant to split $53,560 embezzled from the state in a sham transaction. He was indicted on corruption charges. Pleaded guilty to felony counts tax evasion and accepting a kickback. Sentenced to 17 years in prison.
Walter Fauntroy - Democrat - Delegate to U.S. Congress from the District of Columbia from 1971 to 1991. Charged in federal court with making false statements on financial disclosure forms. Pleaded guilty to one felony count and sentenced to probation.
Carroll Hubbard, Jr. - Democrat - Kentucky State Senate from 1968 to 1975 and U.S. Representative from Kentucky from 1975 to 1993. Pleaded guilty to conspiring to defraud the Federal Elections Commission and to theft of government property; sentenced to three years in prison.
Joseph Kolter - Democrat - member of Pennsylvania State House of Representatives from 1969 to 1982 and U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania from 1983 to 1993. Indicted by a Federal grand jury on five felony charges of embezzlement at the U.S. House post office. Pleaded guilty.
Webster Hubbell - Democrat - Chief Justice of Arkansas State Supreme Court in 1983. Pleaded guilty to federal mail fraud and tax evasion charges - sentenced to 21 months in prison.
Nicholas Mavroules - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1979 to 1993. Pleaded guilty to charges of tax fraud and accepting gratuities while in office.
Carl Christopher Perkins - Democrat - Kentucky State House of Representatives from 1981 to 1984 and U.S. Representative from Kentucky from 1985 to 1993. Pleaded guilty to bank fraud in connection with the House banking scandal. Perkins wrote overdrafts totaling about $300,000. Pleaded guilty to charges of filing false statements with the Federal Election Commission and false financial disclosure reports. Sentenced to 21 months in prison.
Richard Hanna - Democrat - U.S. Representative from California from 1963 to 1974. Received payments of about $200,000 from a Korean businessman in what became known as the "Koreagate" influence buying scandal. Pleaded guilty and sentenced to federal prison.
Angelo Errichetti - Democrat - New Jersey State Senator was sentenced to six years in prison and fined $40,000 for his involvement in Abscam.
Daniel Baugh Brewster - Democrat - U.S. Senator from Maryland. Indicted on charges of accepting illegal gratuity while in Senate.
Thomas Joseph Dodd - Democrat - U.S. Senator from Connecticut. Censured by the Senate for financial improprieties, having diverted $116,000 in campaign and testimonial funds to his own use
Edward Fretwell Prichard, Jr. - Democrat - Delegate to Democratic National Convention from Kentucky. Convicted of vote fraud in federal court in connection with ballot-box stuffing. Served five months in prison.
Jerry Springer - Democrat - Resigned from Cincinnati City Council in 1974 after admitting to paying a prostitute with a personal check, which was found in a police raid on a massage parlor.
Guy Hamilton Jones, Sr. - Democrat -Arkansas State Senate. Convicted on federal tax charges and expelled from the Arkansas Senate.
Daniel Flood - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania from 1945 to 1947, 1949 to 1953 and 1955 to 1980. Pleaded guilty to a conspiracy charge involving payoffs and sentenced to probation.
Otto Kerner, Jr - Democrat - Governor of Illinois from 1961 to 1968. While serving as Governor, he and another official made a gain of over $300,000 in a stock deal. Convicted on 17 counts of bribery, conspiracy, perjury, and related charges. Sentenced to three years in federal prison and fined $50,000.
George Crockett, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Michigan. Served four months in federal prison for contempt of court following his defense of a Communist leader on trial for advocating the overthrow of the government.
Cornelius Edward Gallagher - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New Jersey from 1959 to 1873. Indicted in on federal charges of income tax evasion, conspiracy, and perjury
Mark B. Jimenez - Democrat fundraiser - sentenced to 27 months in prison on charges of tax evasion and conspiracy to defraud the United States and commit election financing offenses.
Bobby Lee Rush - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Illinois. As a Black Panther, spent six months in prison on a weapons charge.
Bolley ''Bo'' Johnson - Democrat - Former Florida House Speaker - received a two-year term for tax evasion.
Roger L. Green - Democrat - Brooklyn Democrat Assemblyman. Pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor for accepting travel reimbursement for trips he did not pay for and was sentenced to fines and probation.
Gloria Davis - Democrat - Bronx assemblywoman. Pleaded guilty to second-degree bribe-taking.
I watched 60 seconds of CNN last night and I almost vomited. They are SO biased it cannot even be called news. "The President says that things on the ground in Iraq are going according to plan, but here to uncover the truth is so and so with a report...." BS, declare I aloud! They don't try to hide their contempt with their sneers and low-blows. It's disgusting. Of course, CNN's ratings are going down the tubes for that very reason,but there are uninformed folks who believe the crap they see in such reporting. But the folks I know and have talked to are still VERY supportive of the President.
I saw one report that had the Pres. at a 39% approval rating. In the fine print I found that 59% of those polled were Democrats and the polling took place in NY state! Well, duh! It depends upon where you do the polling, coupled with who listens to what news outlet and how informed they are (and it takes a good deal of time and dedication to be informed because of all the misinformation).
At the end of the day, Presidents at war, to include Abraham Lincoln, Truman and Roosevelt for example, were all suffering from a slump in their "approval ratings". What ever is true about the President's rating as to accuracy and the informed state of the interviewee, it is to be expected that there be some slump. As far as I'm concerned, I think it's par for the course, particularly against a Republican president. He undergoes a CONSTANT smear campaign and has been soft on setting the record straight (until very recently this included Iraq). History WILL show him to be one of America's best president's. We can make a bet on how we'll look back on this in 50 years if you want, but don't put up too much cash. :)
I have a bad cold, that was all pretty incoherent.
One more thing: where is the outrage regarding the "outting" of CAI prisons throughout the world? That is far more serious than "outting" a non-covert CIA agent who's husband had already outted her.
Wow, that’s quite a list. I admire your passion and conviction. In my opinion, though, neither party has cornered the market on honor and integrity. Richard Nixon, a Republican president, was arguably responsible for one of the largest political scandals in our nation’s history. It’s not about the party; it’s about the individual and how they choose to conduct themselves in the political arena.
As far as the Bush administration goes, legal technicalities aside it seems clear that Karl Rove at least lied to the President – in which case he should resign. The fact that this process took over two years seems largely due to the fact that Scooter Libby lied repeatedly. Had he admitted what he had done in the first place, this investigation probably would have been over long ago (and he probably wouldn’t have been charged with a crime). What bothers me most is that valuable time and resources were wasted at a time when this government could have been focusing on much more important things.
I won't justify Nixon, but it's funny to have to go back that far to find a Repub. President embroiled in scandal! The Democratic party is largely a secular party while the Republican party has a large religious base. Morality is determined therefore through concrete religious principles for Conservatives... even the ones who aren't religious respect the 10 commandments and so on. Meanwhile, liberals attempt to take Christ out of Christmas, babies out of their mother's wombs and downplay extramarital affairs and blow jobs in the Oval Office... inasmuch as they are the "mistakes" of a Democratic president. I believe Republicans, while far from perfect, have a far better track record than Democrats and are more honest and principled.
Rove should resign if he indeed LIED to the President. I cannot imagine him doing so and damaging the personal relationship with him, not to mention putting himself at risk. What is the nature of the lie? I am unfamiliar with it.
As for Libby, if he lied, he too should resign. Again, repeating information and getting it wrong isn't lying, but I have no idea if he did or didn't. I do know that Democrats called Clinton, the PRESIDENT, "an unusually good liar" and claimed that his lying was good because it was to spare people's feelings. Give me a break! A lie is virtue for a Dem. and a crime for a Republican?
I believe, like with the war on terror, in knowing the enemy. Democrats are enemies of Republicans. They use sneaky and underhanded tactics as a policy in how to proceed operationally in Washington. I know them and have been aware of their "mistakes" for 20 years now. It is based on "the end justifies the means", which is born out of secular theory. I cannot respect their ideology.
Time will tell where all this leads....
On October 7, 2003 President Bush clearly stated that Karl Rove had no role in the leaking of a undercover CIA agents name:
Q: Yesterday we were told that Karl Rove had no role in it.
THE PRESIDENT: Yes.
Q: Have you talked to Karl and do you have confidence in him?
THE PRESIDENT: Listen, I know nobody – I don’t know of anybody in my administration who leaked classified information. If somebody did leak classified information, I’d like to know it, and we’ll take the appropriate action. And this investigation is a good thing.
However, emails between Time Magazine correspondent Matt Cooper and his editor confirm that Karl Rove was supplying information about Joseph Wilson's wife being employed at the CIA days before the Novak piece was published.
In addition, the Whitehouse press secretary, Scott McClellan, who speaks on behalf of the President made a series of statements which turned out to be false.
In their July 11 issue Newsweek reported, “In early October 2003, NEWSWEEK reported that immediately after Novak's column appeared in July, Rove called MSNBC "Hardball" host Chris Matthews and told him that Wilson's wife was "fair game." But White House spokesman Scott McClellan told reporters at the time that any suggestion that Rove had played a role in outing Plame was "totally ridiculous." On Oct. 10, McClellan was asked directly if Rove and two other White House aides had ever discussed Valerie Plame with any reporters. McClellan said he had spoken with all three, and "those individuals assured me they were not involved in this."
The July 18 issue of Newsweek stated, “Rove's words on the Plame case have always been carefully chosen. "I didn't know her name. I didn't leak her name," Rove told CNN last year when asked if he had anything to do with the Plame leak. Rove has never publicly acknowledged talking to any reporter about former ambassador Joseph Wilson and his wife. But last week, his lawyer, Robert Luskin, confirmed to NEWSWEEK that Rove did—and that rove was the secret source who, at the request of both Cooper's lawyer and the prosecutor, gave Cooper permission to testify.
Either President Bush spoke directly with Karl Rove and was lied to or he did not speak with him about it (which I have a hard time believing) in which case this would be a lie of omission. Either way the integrity of the President’s staff has been seriously compromised. I believe the President but I do not believe Karl Rove.
Political “witch hunts” are nothing new but I am so frustrated with high-level political appointees who lie to protect their positions at the expense of the country and a main stream media so hungry for any scandal that they lose site of the truly important stories.
Just letting you Jez is a man.
Silke, I'll reply later after I read over your entry. Thanks for all the info!
Trust me, the Dems have been trying to nail Rove for years because he's been the mastermind behind the Bush election victories. There is not even enough evidence to indicte Rove, let alone find him guilty of anything.
My understanding and yours of this situation is different, but I am still in the process of informing myself. You may be more informed than I. A few weeks ago I wrote a long entry on the Plame situation. It is still there, but unpublished. I'm working on the last portion of it which includes the Woodward role in the entire event. It is a very detailed and entangled web. I"m not sure it's as cut and dry as I or you are making it out to be.
Good comments.I would add that I don't trust any Time Magazine correspondents.
I disagree. As a journalist he is the recipient of information and not likely to have such knowledge on his own. Of course at this point we don’t know WHO gave Bob Woodward that information, but on November 14 he testified that a senior government official spoke to him about Plame and her role at the CIA. With Woodward’s testimony the timeline may be in question as to who FIRST leaked the information, but that doesn’t change the fact that Karl Rove spoke with a reporter from Time Magazine regarding Valerie Plame and then apparantly lied about it to the President (which is the part I have the biggest problem with). If your contention is that this does not constitute a leak then we disagree. Of course Karl Rove may not have intended to commit a crime or he may not have even known that it was a crime but it is quite telling that after more than two years Karl Rove is still under investigation.
As to your doubts about Karl Rove incriminating himself by talking to Hardball, it wouldn’t be incriminating if there wasn’t an investigation yet. I doubt anyone in the White House had any idea where this would lead.
I am very interested in your assertion that Wilson was actually the one who outted his wife. Why would he do that and why wasn’t he indicted by the grand jury? Also, regardless of whether Valerie Plame was still a covert agent at the time Karl Rover spoke about her (and I am unsure of the timeline here) the fact that she was identified has having been a covert agent at all is what constitutes the crime as I understand it. I look forward to reading your entry about this case and hearing more about Wilson and his wife.
Amy you’re right, this is very complicated and it reinforces my earlier remark that ultimately this is such a waste of time for our government. Had those involved been more forthcoming earlier in the investigation none of this would have mattered.
She signed 100 books which all the profits went to the peace house, those pictures were taken at 10:30am, meanwhile a few hours later when EVERYBODY showed up the AP had already left.
Swiftboating this poor woman just because she is completely OWNING the Nutbag in chief Dubya is pretty pathetic, even for rethugs.
you people need to get a life
also this is in a freaking tent out in the damn desert, what the hell do you expect the day after Thanksgiving? a crowd of 1000+ like you would in a NYC book signing...LOL
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1. How much brain power does it take to DECIDE to do a book signing in " the damn desert?"
2. 100 people is about what fits in her bus, so I don't doubt that a majority of the people there were her entourage. ( I have seen the same situation at a previous Sheehan rally I counter protested)
3.QUOTE she is completely OWNING the Nutbag in chief Dubya UNQUOTE
Other than a disrespectful reference to our commander in chief, what the hell does that mean?
4.YAWN YAWN, Oh sorry, I'm just getting so bored with Cindy Sheehan. Excuse me while I go find something more interesting to do like watch cement dry.