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Saturday
30Sep2006

Republican Congressman Resigns

Republican Congressman Mark Foley of Florida, a member of the Republican leadership serving as a deputy whip and a member of the House Ways and Means Committee, abruptly resigned from Congress as details about his e-mail and Instant Message exchanges with a teenaged boy became public. The boy was a 16 year old congressional page at the time. Pages are high school students who attend classes under congressional supervision and work as messengers.

The 16 year old wasn’t the only boy with whom Foley corresponded. The sexually explicit instant messages, according to ABC, said Rep. Foley wrote to one page:

"Do I make you a little horny?"

In another message, Foley wrote, "You in your boxers, too? ... Well, strip down and get naked."

Enough said.  Really.

Disgustingly enough, Foley, chairman of the Missing and Exploited Children's Caucus, introduced legislation in July to protect children from exploitation by adults over the Internet. He also sponsored other legislation designed to protect minors from abuse and neglect. Foley reportedly said, "We track library books better than we do sexual predators." He also once accused the Supreme Court of "siding with pedophiles over children."

Good riddance, Congressman, and don’t let the door hit you on the way out. Aside from the obvious conflict of interest as the Chairman of the Missing and Exploited Children’s Caucus, America deserves representatives who are better than this. While his conduct may not be illegal, it is certainly immoral and predatorial. If Democrats win this seat as a result, so be it. 

However, there’ll be no listening to lectures on morality by the likes of Nancy Pelosi or any other Democrat on this blog until Democrats condemn….

President Bill Clinton’s sexual harassment of Paula Jones while Governor of Arkansas, and Kathleen Willey and Jaunita Broaddrick while President of the United States; his affair while President with intern Monica Lewinsky, who was only a couple years older than his own daughter and his affair with Gennifer Flowers while governor. Not to mention his multiple other affairs and scandals.

Dem. Congressman Barney Frank, who allowed prostitute and pimp Stephen L. Gobie to operate a prostitution service out of Frank's Capitol Hill apartment and also admitted he paid Gobie for sex with personal funds as an aide and wrote letters on congressional stationery on his behalf to Virginia probation officials.

Then there’s New Jersey Gov. Jim McGreevey’s sexual promiscuity with multiple men and placing one lover in a position of homeland security despite his lack of qualifications, philandering Sen. Ted Kennedy, Jesse Jackson and his teenaged lover and baby, California Congressman Gary Condit and his affair with an intern who was murdered, Louisiana Congressman Rep. William J. Jefferson, who had an escort canoe him to his home in New Orleans to retrieve $90,000 of bribe money in cash from his freezer, etc., etc., etc….

Moral equivalency?  You bet, so let's not be hypocrites.

Foley is a disgrace.  Good riddance. 

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    Was Foley a perv? Most definately so. But the speed with which the Democrats came out swinging at the Republican leadership, accusing them of knowing about the sexually explicit emails long ago, gave me pause. Not because I believed them, but becaus...
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    Amy points out the difference between Democrat vs Republican reaction when one of their own commit an aggregious action or behavior. There seems to a consistent path each party follows: Republicans resign and Democrats defend the offender.I had forgot...
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    Rep. Mark Foley, a Florida Republican, resigned Friday after America learned who - and what - he really is. From Yahoo! News:In a scandal guaranteed to anger parents, a prominent House Republican has resigned after the revelation that he exchanged

Reader Comments (56)

Good stuff. This shows you how Republicans are willing to hold their own party members accountable, whereas Dems still make excuses and gloss over their biggest blunders in history.
September 30, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterTim
AMY -

I agree with Tim...Repubicans are not the "We are PERFECT" party (good thing, cuz they're not), and this is a sick inidividual. Honestly, I don't want to hear another peep out of this bastid!
October 1, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterTimmer
All I can say is eeew - disgusting!
October 1, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterAimz
The hypocrisy of the Democrats is amazing. It's interesting to see how they forget about their own moral failures and yet have the hutzpa to decry any Republican who commits the same type of moral depravity. I also remember Marion Barry, James Traficant, Torricelli and how about Sandy Berger who stuffs/steals secret documents from the National Archive. I know there are more Democrats but this is just off the top of my head. It's always interesting in these situations where Republicans resign and Democrats defend the offenders. Never fails!
October 1, 2006 | Unregistered Commentertoni
As a parent and a Republican I find it appalling that you would even spend one sentence focusing on the politics of this issue. This is a new low in Washington involving a child. A very sad day in our beautiful country.
October 1, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterRoger Stevens
Roger,

What I find appalling is the way the Democrats immediately politicize this event, trying to call for hearings on OTHER Republicans as if this were a cover up. Democrats have brought politics to an all new low. The fact is that Democrats defend their own, like former NJ Gov.McGreevey or worse, Barney Frank, who is STILL ACTIVELY SERVING IN THE CONGRESS! It's clear hypocritical posturing that deserves a response from Republicans. They've already ruined America's reputation in the world with their constant barrage of anti-American demagoguery, but to politicize THIS, particularly with THEIR own shortcomings, is frankly unconscionable.
October 1, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterAmy Proctor
Yea Amy - yours is the first post I've been able to trackback to for months. Greg must have fixed my problem and he didn't tell me. I was mostly just testing.
October 1, 2006 | Unregistered Commentertoni
If the Republican Leadership quickly resolves this scandal, then this might not hurt them too much in November. For the good of the country we need to focus on the threat of Islamofascist Jihadists, where the Dhimmicrats are extremely weak. I cannot fathom a Party where President Bush and the Republican Congress are deemed a bigger threat to the security of the US than those WMD seeking, murderous terrorists are. At least Foley resigned. As Amy stated, penis, pimp and prostitute loving Barney Frank has not.
October 1, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterDenny
Amy, you're forgetting the all-time wammy: Ted Kennedy and the drowning woman.
October 2, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterTim
Saturday Night Dhimmi Live.

Yesterday I turned on the TV to watch SNL for a few moments before watching some good 'ld movies. What I witnessed was a dhimmi attitude of the show, so had to turn it off. So after ten years ( Last time I watched) it looks as if things are getting worse. 'O' well, I'm not missing anything.

Besides the Chaves skit where he is depicted as the moral equivalent of Dhimmicrats who run the show, I think one of the segments I saw was Bill Clinton debating Condi over his Fox News appearance, where the writers and producers of the SNDL decided that it would be funny to turn the skit into a sexual innuendo by the former president hitting-and-calling on Condi as some cheap hooker/low esteemed-like that needed to dance and perform to his every suggestive- command, so to speak. Probably next week they’ll have a segment claiming all republicans are just like Foley, and they’ll try to form some type of reason. Probably fomenting that fighting terrorism makes one a pedophile therefore we must leave Iraq. However, I will not be watching.
October 2, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterCalPatriot
Amy said: “What I find appalling is the way the Democrats immediately politicize this event, trying to call for hearings on OTHER Republicans as if this were a cover up.”

Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert has also asked the Justice Department to not only to investigate Congressman Foley but also anyone who new about the e-mail messages. I think he’s right. Some of the messages are three years old. If someone new about them but did not report them they should also be held accountable for it. Don’t you agree?
October 2, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterSilke
Yes, well, Hastert is also the guy who came to William Jefferson's defense when the FBI rightly went into his office to confiscate boxes of evidence showing a paper trail to the bribery going on with the Lousiana Dem Congressman. It was shown later that Congressmen to NOT have a right to hide behind Congressional privileage and conduct illegal activity and then hide the evidence in their office. Hastert argued the opposite (sort of the Cynthia McKinney defense of "I'm a Congresswoman and cannot be charged with a crime in the Captial"). So forgive me if I don't have a lot of faith in Hastert's opinion.

This is not a cover up. One Republican did something disgusting (not illegal from what I understand, but I will never defend him, as you've read in my entry) and he was kicked out of office. A Democrat does the same thing or worse and he's re-elected. I find that appalling. Sorry.
October 2, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterAmy Proctor
Amy, if others new about Congressman Foley’s e-mails (for months or even years) but didn’t report it don’t you think they should be held accountable too?
October 2, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterSilke
I agree with you, Amy. It is dispicable the way the Dems are politicizing this, but digging for dirt unfortunately is something both parties do, especially right before an election. As for this asshat, he belongs in jail. If what he did is not against the law, it should be! I think someone ought to put him there and throw away the key! I know how I would react if it were my 16 year-old son, and it wouldn't be pretty. I'm not very good, I'm afraid, at forgiving my enemies when it comes to my children!
October 2, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterGayle
Yikes!! I had no idea this even occurred, ick! I have never understood how adults can be sexually attracted to children. It is so disgusting!

I am glad that the Republicans did not tolerate or excuse his, rather nasty, behavior.
October 2, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterLeticia
Now hold on a second!!! You people spent the last eight years politicizing and exploiting every detail of the Democrat's backyard and all the time, you were covering up what was going on in your own backyard. You're still doing it: "WAH! Studds!" "WAH! Clinton!" "WAH! Frank!" How many Republican Congressmen have been shown the door rather abruptly in the past 4 years compared to the Democrats? You're averaging 1 per year now aren't you? C'MON...you supposedly the party of morality here! C'MON...you're the so-called "Christian" Right?!?!? So now you compare your morality to Democrats when caught being just as sleazy after eight years of lying to the people about how much more moral you supposedly are? Where are you gonna find a handful of half-wits that are gonna be dumb enough to by into that lie and is it appropriate the "party of morality" to be finally comparing their lack of morality to Democrats? Lying then or lying now? Pick one!

The loudest critic of Clinton's indiscretion was Newt Gingrich, a man having sex with his mistress while his wife was in the hospital with cancer. A man being just as sleazy as Clinton was and lied just as much. No morality there, just hypocracy and yet, you still point your finger at Clinton and stick your nose in other people's backyards. Hastert and Reynolds had every opportunity to deal with this and they instead chose to aid and protect a potential felon. They both should step down and resign effective immediately and join the other 4 Republican Congressmen that have lost their jobs for morality and legal problems in the past 3 years. Instead of pointing your fingers as Studds, Clinton and Franks, put your money where your mouth is and BE the party of morality rather than compare your morality to the Democrats in a pathetic attempt to paint yourselves just as worthy. You're not! You're the party of morality, remember?

Stay the heck out of the Democrat's backyards until you clean up whats going on in your own backyards!
October 2, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterSyntax
"The important matter requiring investigation is how a recently-created anonymous blogger got the email correspondence which the boy’s parents had insisted be kept quiet. And how the blog site, which had virtually no posts and no traffic suddenly caught the attention of Foley’s opponent who immediately asked for an investigation."

Source: <http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=5909> American thinker, Via Lucianne.com

Question, how did this become public? I do not think Foley ran around Congress screaming of this at the top of his lungs?

Maybe Bush’s secret spying ousted him. Don’t you think the democrats would respond and say ‘see, this Bush secret spying is damaging our liberal freedoms. Look what it did to Foley. I mean what a shame, eh?’
October 2, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterCalPatriot
"Stay the heck out of the Democrat's backyards until you clean up whats going on in your own backyards!"

H... ah ah, what rubbish. Lets take a look.

Mistress is normal, for leaders in history. But I believe the outrage was not only Monica, it was the allege other interns before her, the rape allegations, the cover-ups and threats and abusiveness of womanizing, even before his presidency, that got republicans and some Democrats attentions.

Newt Gingrich, so what? He was not the loudest person, possibly only in the Congress. Careful how you word your points, bub. Plenty of people were more upset about this than Newt. Was that against the law, or was Clinton's lying which cost $80 million in an investigation waste and time and a November '98 Iraq war that killed people to knock-off the TV coverage of his lies, all to make him see it was the lies and not the act itself that was the problem. Newt Gingrich didn’t start wars to cover his ass from the media blitz, nor did he lie and cost the American tax payer $80 mil., nor did cause Congress to take valuable time-off to make Clinton recognize he was committing a high-crime (def. any crime committed by a high official), by lying to authorities. You seem to have history wrong there bub.

No hypocrisy here, bub. This would demand equal merits of the two individuals a person compares in argument. Newt didn’t do anything illegal, but Clinton did, everything compared above, and finally, Newt was not impeached, like Clinton. Ha ha .

October 2, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterCalPatriot
The distinct difference between the way the GOP handles a pervert is to initiate proceedings; whereas the Democratic process is to canonise them. So Syntax, remove the tree from your eye before you attempt to remove the speck from mine.
October 2, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterOld Soldier
I find it hilarious that where you find people throwing Foley under the bus (where he should be thrown for this), you find Dem apologists claiming that Republicans are ignoring it. Just because we don't idolize our slime balls (think Studds, Clinton and Kennedy). I pederadt is a pederast and should forfeit their seat in congress, Foley save the congress of censure though he should have to stand and face the music. Studds turned his back in a show of contempt, typical for a pederast/pedophile. Kennedy still acts like Chapaquidik was just a little mishap. clinton is still...well, Clinton.
Foley should be thrown under the prison (he should be joining Studds but since the good people of Mass gave him a Kennedy-style pass so that won't happen.
October 2, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterJ Rob
Silke said: "Amy, if others new about Congressman Foley’s e-mails (for months or even years) but didn’t report it don’t you think they should be held accountable too?"


Silke, accountable for????????? No crime has been committed.
October 2, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterAmy P


Dennis Hastert said Republicans knew only a few days ago about the explicit IMs, but since they were leaked someone else DID know about them, and "whoever" it was should be exposed. Good for Hastert!


Oct. 2 (Bloomberg) -- House Speaker Dennis Hastert, under fire for his response to Florida Representative Mark Foley's e- mails to teenage congressional pages, said he was unaware of any sexually explicit e-mails until Foley resigned.
``Republican leaders of the House did not have them,'' Hastert said at the Capitol. ``Someone did have them. And the Ethics Committee, the Justice Department, the news media, and anyone who can should help us find out who.''

Foley, 52, resigned Sept. 29 after ABC News asked him about explicit e-mails that were sent to teenagers in 2003.

Meanwhile, pathetic liberals...

"Republican Leaders admitted to knowing about Mr. Foley's abhorrent behavior for six months to a year and failed to protect the children in their trust," said Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif. "Republican Leaders must be investigated by the Ethics Committee and immediately questioned under oath."

House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi said in a statement today that Hastert ``failed to answer the question that every mother and father in America is asking: how could Republican Leaders chose partisan politics over protecting children?''
October 2, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterAmy P
Amazing investigation Amy, I wonder it the NYT will run only what Pelosi mumbled unintelligibly?
October 2, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterCalPatriot
Wow, according to one prominent democrat this was an open-secret in Washington, eh Mrs. Pelosi? Ha ha.

I suspect Emails will become something of the past on Capital Hill shortly. I remember Bill Clinton deleting all his emails once the Monica Scandal erupted.

I guess this is what Pelosi is trying to make Hastert resign over.

“Leadership officials had been aware since last year of the 2005 e-mail exchange, which they said was "over friendly" but did not include overtly sexual references. They said they did not follow up other than to instruct Foley to not communicate with the Louisiana page.”

CREW gave the emails to the FBI in July. What? So now we have to make the entire FBI resign like the Dems are trying to get Hastert to do?

"They (the e-mails) should have raised a red flag over at the FBI," said Melanie Sloan, the group's executive director and a former prosecutor specializing in sex crimes. The group on Monday asked the Justice Department's inspector general to investigate why Foley's e-mails were not pursued.


Here is the best part of the whole thing. Funny that it is always at the end of a long article, eh?

"Democrat Tim Mahoney said Monday that his campaign learned about the Foley e-mails through a reporter and wasn't sure what to believe until actually seeing them.
"There was information that obviously had been out and about. It had to be one of the biggest open secrets in Washington D.C."


OK, If Nancy knew We want her to resign too. If what Mahoney (Dem.) says is accurate, then she knew and she was an accomplice. Ha ha

Best thing to do is to wait a few days for everyone to come clean.

AP ( Advocate press [ for the democratic Party]). <Hastert Defends Handling of Page Scandal,Andrew Taylor, Oct 2, 7:15 PM (ET)>
October 2, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterCal Patriot
The Palm Beach (Fla.) Post reported the year-old e-mail messages, which were reported to congressional officials in August 2005, -UPI

http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20060929-035753-9266r

"congressional officials [ knew a year ago] " Which ones and were these illegal emails?
October 2, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterCalPatriot
Amy said: “Silke, accountable for????????? No crime has been committed.”

For not investigating it further and making sure he didn’t do this to other pages in the future. Don’t you think they should have done more than just ask Foley to stop what he was doing?
October 2, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterSilke
Pelosi's actions are disgusting. She cares not about Foley or the boys involved but about scoring points. Hastert resign? Why? Give me a break! I can't believe she didn't suggest the President be impeached. The democratic party has become a lawyer chasing an abulence. It's pretty damn pathetic.
October 2, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterAmy P
Syntax: If Amy was a hypocrite, she wouldn't have written an entire post about a Republican pedophile. We hold our leaders accountable. You make excuses for yours.
October 3, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterTim
After finding out that Speaker Dennis Hastert's office had knowledge of inappropriate comminications by Mr. Foley to at least one page as far back as 2003, I have concluded that Mr. Hastert should RESIGN as Speaker of the House. It is his offices' resposiblilty for the integrity of the page program. Even if his staff did not inform him of the salacious communications of 2003, it is still the responsibility of the Speaker's office for the page program. I have written about this in my blog if you want further reasoning for my decision at http://www.judgesamuelaalito.com/fycpblog.html
October 3, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterDenny
Amy is not a hypocrite! Think about this, Syntax: Gary Studds had sex with a page and not only did he not step down from office, nor was he asked to, he was actually re-elected. Barney Frank (Democrat) ran a gay prostitution ring in his basement. Did he step down? No! Did he go to jail? No! Was he re-elected? Yes! It seems that the Democrats, belonging to the feel-good crowd and not expected to hold high moral standards can get away with anything, but if Bush had done a "Lowinski" in the Oval Office the Dems would have boiled him in oil if they thought they could get away with it. Before you come into Amy's blog and accuse her of being a hypocrite I believe you should take a good long look in the mirror.

Sorry, Amy, but I'm really fed up with these hypocrites. I also want you to know that I think ABC News knew about this long before they disclosed it and held onto it so they could lay this bomb as close to the election as possible. Also, the Dems hope to put blame on the entire Republican party for one man's actions. How very typical! They truly are a sorry bunch.
October 3, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterGayle
This is a certainly a tragedy for Foley and the pages involved, but not a political story. Foley is a disgrace, to be sure. Make no mistake, however, we are seeing the Democrats and their allies in the MSM at their collaborative best. I have posted about this story on my blog. Some aspects of the story just don't quite pass the smell test.
October 3, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterJoe
Syntax, you have totally missed the point. A democrat scores with an underaged boy or girl and he's relentlessly defended by the party, the boy or girl slandered. Yep, in Clinton's case Paula Jones, Jaunita Broaddrick and Monica Lewinsky were trailer trash, tramps, vixons, liars..... as for Clinton, well, it was JUST SEX. Whoever the Democrat of the day is defended and the "victim", usually equally as liberal, is demonized.

Here we have a case in which ONE Republican, a gay Republican, I might add (I haven't even begun to touch on that topic), wrote E-MAILS to a 16 year old (legal age of consent in DC, don't you know) and upon being caught RESIGNED and entered a treatment center totally contrite. The Republicans have CONDEMNED the behavior of Foley up, down and center, UNLIKE Democrats in similar situations. No, Democrats RE-ELECT their pediphiles and perverts.

The difference? Democrats have no moral standard to speak of. ANYTHING goes. Don't believe me? Check their stances on condoms for minors, sex-ed in school, abortion rights, gay marriage, and last but not least, the decensitizing of sex itself.

Republicans are the party of family values, so we of course make ourselves a target. However, how Republicans handled this was excellent: we ousted our sinner and he's in rehab.

Dems live in a perverbial Sodom and Gohmorrah while Republicans the land of milk and honey where there is also REDEMPTION.

Democrats are salivating because they think finally, FINALLY have a cause that will win them some seats at election time (i.e, the anti-Republican cause). They fail to recognize that 1) this is not a new cause for them and everybody knows it and 2) Americans see through their abumlence chasing. I predict they will lose a few seats as a result of their tactlessness.
October 3, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterAmy P
Don't forget the standing ovations given Studds by his party when he retired.
October 3, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterJ Rob
Hey, everyone, like I posted yesterday, there remained questions - plenty of suspicions this was a planned thing by the democrats. Remember that closed door meeting the dems had the other week? Wonder what they said. Heah look ‘guys,’ were not going to tell you, but we are about to release a bomb on the Republicans. Just a thought.

So if they knew, then what does that say about them?

"Why didn't they come forward then? Who dredged up these e-mails -- and why did they hold them until now? This reeks of political trickery."



Some others also are beginning to see it this way.

“Democrats have begun losing their once-significant lead in the polls, and a mere five weeks remain until the midterm elections. Is this scandal the Democrats' own "October Surprise," meant to throw the GOP into a tailspin shortly before the vote?”

(Did Democrats Page Mark Foley?) Mon Oct 2, 7:00 PM ET ( Yahoo News, Investor Business Daily.

Gerry Studds , Barney Frank , billy the ‘Womanizing’ Clinton are laughing at Foley’s gullibility.


waiting....!!!!
October 3, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterCalPatriot
What's really sad is that it seems to take sex to grab the public's attention. Wars, deficits, profiteering, Yawn.....

Illicit sex? My god, this calls for an investigation!
October 4, 2006 | Unregistered Commentergrumpy old fart
Grumpy,

Wars, deficits, profiteering, are problems that are too complicated to deal with. Its much easier to sweep these issues under the carpet and focus on real issues of global and national concern (ie the SEX lives of politicians!). Gotta love those moral high-ground taking "Christians" of America :)

October 4, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterMavic
Amy,
You wrote, "Democrats have no moral standard to speak of. ANYTHING goes. Don't believe me? Check their stances on condoms for minors, sex-ed in school, abortion rights, gay marriage, and last but not least, the decensitizing of sex itself." Your wrong. Of course Democrates believe in morality. Their morality may not be tyranical like Rebuplican's morality seems to be; nonetheless, Democrates believe in doing what is right. Your line of reasoning is invalid. Believeing in A doesn't automatically equal B. A Democrate believes if a minor is going to choose to have sex without the consent of their guardian, then he/she should practice safe sex; thus, he/she should have access to condoms. This does not equate immorality. A Democrate believes that learning the sexual reproduction parts and the cycle of human life is as an important part of health education. This does not equal immorality. A Democrate believes that no one may govern over a woman's body. This does not equal immorality. A Democrate believes we are all equals and a homosexual couple has the same rights as a heterosexual couple. This does not equate immorality. Our morals consist of doing what is best within an intelligent line of reasoning. Rebuplicans seem to believe that morality consists of tyranical "rules" that don't seem to work in a world that consists of thinking individuals. What works for one doesn't necessarily work for others...your "morals" may not work for others. Yes, if in fact Gary Studds and Barney Frank were guilty of such crude acts, they too should have stepped down.


My Opinion
Politically Correct
October 4, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterPolitically Correct
CalPatriot, I've heard the same thing. There is a possibility that if the truth comes out Democrats may be the ones in deep doo doo. This is starting to sound like the conspiracy crowd blaming Bush or Clinton for 9/11 instead of the terrorists who pulled it off.
October 4, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterAmy P
"Wars, deficits, profiteering, are problems that are too complicated to deal with."

Yes, and Canada handles those issues soooo well.
October 4, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterTim
Thats real mature argument Tim......

Most Canadians don't defend Canada's actions right and wrong, we're willing critics of Canadian policy regardless of who's in power. Now tell me that this applies to the politics of your great "land of the FREE"..?! Canadians don't accept our politicians whoring the nation into wars and exploiting behaviour, at the expense of treating the rest of the world as pawns. I can't speak for every Canadian obviously, but I think its reasonable to say that this is a fair generalization of the Canadian conscience.

October 4, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterMavic
By the way I am glad you're an external critic of CAnada. Don't forget to google the name of our prime-minister while you're developing your expertise on Canadian politics!
October 4, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterMavic
Mavic: I live here in Canada too moron. His name is Harper. Your government doesn't whore itself into wars because your military is a joke. Your goverment only endorses rampant abortion, astronomical taxes, failing healthcare, and same sex marriage.(except for Harper) Other than those moral flops, I guess Canada is doing pretty well.

" Now tell me that this applies to the politics of your great "land of the FREE"..?!"

I love how you say that so sarcastically. Its okay, I'd be jealous of America too if I had to be a citizen of this globally insignificant iceberg. But the fact of the matter is, it will be the U.S., the defenders of freedom,, that save your sorry grey asses if you ever should have your freedom threatened by outside forces. I'd advise you to fix your own wasteland before condemning our country which allows you to exist.
October 4, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterTim
Amy,
How do you like the breaking news today that ABC lied, the 'kid' was 18..
October 4, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterMatthew
Matthew, I've heard the sane thing..
October 4, 2006 | Registered CommenterAmy Proctor
Thats interesting that you live here. Its ok, I know that you probably dont' have the skin to acknowledge the luxuries of the benefits you receive by living here, but the irony is beautiful!

"Your goverment only endorses rampant abortion, astronomical taxes, failing healthcare, and same sex marriage." and thats precisely the reason why you choose to Call CAnada home ehhh!?


Anyhow I"ll let you continue the "my house is better than yours" debate by yourself. I am not here to dig your head out of the sand, along with your fantasies about being great "defenders of freedom". The facts speak for themselves. The only country in the world to use atomic bombs, the bottom of the totem pole in aid per gnp. All these "Liberal" facts make your country the great defenders of freedom, I see. Keep at it, Dick Cheney and co yearn count on people like you to fill Haliburton's pockets. Easy fish to reel.





October 5, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterMavic
How should Canada and the rest of those meccas of liberal bastions become "globally significant icebergs"?? Lets here Lord Tim's master plan for this process to transpire. I have some clues though, perhaps we should start by building a gigantic military with all sorts of Weapons of mass destruction, and then go around and start bullying countries about their own "weapons of mass destruction". Alas, it all makes sense now! The quest for "freedom" has a plan at last.
October 5, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterMavic
"Its ok, I know that you probably dont' have the skin to acknowledge the luxuries of the benefits you receive by living here"

Outragious wait times at the emergency room, taxed 15 cents for every dollar I spend, a driver's license that costs $60 (how do you people sleep at night) and ZERO national security. See, I can acknowledge the benefits of living here.

"How should Canada and the rest of those meccas of liberal bastions become "globally significant icebergs"??"

Stop using universal healthcare that sends all your doctors to the U.S, creating outragious wait times in hospitals resulting in deaths, outragious wait times to get a doctor's appointment for any significant medical reason, and also sends your taxes sky high. Stop treating your military like garbage, equip them, train them. Give them something other than plastic silverware to fight with and you might be in the game. Eliminate homosexual marriages, eliminate abortion, do something about the awful suicide rate in Ontario. (the last 3 combined will leave your population even less than the joke that it already is) Feed the poor in Halifax. Stop breeding animals with mad cow disease and getting pissed off when we don't buy them from you. Make something besides drugs affordable. Last, but not least, stop being so jealous of the United States that it eats away at your soul.

"The only country in the world to use atomic bombs"

Which ended WW2. We also ended fascism, racism, slavery, and all sorts of other evils. That is how you become "significant".

October 5, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterTim
Correction: we didn't end racism. We ended nazism.
October 5, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterTim
Must have been a freudian slip? The united states is usually better known as the mecca of racism and slavery. Talk about confessing fantasies.

Here's something to be proud of:

http://www.gensuikin.org/english/photo.html

What a victory celebration eh! 200 000 people dead.


Its pretty sweet that you have some brilliant ideas to save CAnada from its rank of 5th most livable country in the world, but we need some facts we can count on, fantasies don't count.

Tim, tell me something, has your beloved America ever upheld this so called "NAFTA" agreement or does it only abide by its rules upon its convenience? Perhaps you have another fantasy to share that would totally blow away the facts again.

We are still wondering why you choose call that crazy country called CAnada, your place of residence. After all it is everything you despise, isn't it.





October 5, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterMavic
How will exactly will eliminating homosexual marriages and eliminating abortions contribute Tim? Did a homosexual marriage cause any dysfunction to your life? Who and how did this process harm yourself or anyone else?

Canada may have legalized abortion but it is certainly not killing its citizens with monstrous crime rates that the UNited States enjoys. Last time I checked I presume the city of Los Angeles has more murders than this entire country. OHHH those morally corrupt Canadians!
October 5, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterMavic

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