'Immodest' Iranian Women Arrested
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Amy Proctor
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Iran – Congress Can Stop the Slide to War
Written by Friends Committee on National Legislation
Thursday, 15 March 2007
Your phone calls in the next 48 hours could stop the administration from rushing into military action against Iran.
Members of Congress from both major political parties are concerned that, given the administration’s track record leading up to the Iraq war, President Bush will authorize military action against Iran. Last week the House leadership designed a legislative provision to require the president to seek congressional authorization before launching a military attack against Iran. They attached that provision to the draft Iraq war supplemental spending bill. The provision would require the administration to make a full, public explanation of the need for war and gain congressional approval before launching new military action against Iran.
But, on Monday, the House leadership deleted the no war with Iran provision from the supplemental funding bill. The congressional leadership is counting votes. Apparently, they believe there is not sufficient support in Congress to approve a bar on military attacks on Iran without congressional approval.
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Even if Iran decided to build a nuclear weapon, experts agree that it would take several years. There is no crisis, and our government should not create one with inflammatory rhetoric or military threats.
At the anti-war rally in March 2007, Ramsey Clark, former U.S. Attorney General who was on Saddam Hussein’s defense team, said this:
”We’re the ones that are developing new nuclear weapons. You know, we threatened several other countries because they want nuclear energy or whatever they’re doing; they couldn’t hurt us if they had ‘em, but we’re developing new weapons and we’ll use ‘em!
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Reader Comments (17)
"not that you guys aren't also guilty of oppression of women"
Care to qualify that one before you suffer another bout of OCD?
Something else. That chick in the pink scarf looks like she's winking at someone behind the camera. See for yourself when the British news anchor said "... because they're arresting women dressed like this." If you watch close, you'll see her smile and throw someone a wink. Hmm...
Well so much for the student democratic demonstrations in the last decade. Their hard fought freedoms of a little bit of dignity are being lost. I guess for Women’s apparel, it is back to the walking table-cloth era.
Considering Iran's increasing desire to push the U.S. into attacking them, I wonder if this is another attempt at goading us. Trent pointed out that the one girl in the video was smiling... I didn't see the wink but I certainly saw the smile. Makes one wonder, really, what the game is with this move. It smacks of psychological warfare, you know? Not that it makes me feel any less repulsed by the actions, just more cautious about reacting to it.
Trent, I always delete Kevron's entries, so I wouldn't even bother to reply to him.
I think the woman was just blinking...more with one eye than the other, but you can see she blinks with both. It's probably a nervous smile/eye movement. Or a signal for help? Who knows. We know from the British debacle last month that the Iranian government is something to be feared.
"...the Iranian government is something to be feared."
I agree, just not sure how to react to this because Iran wants war...or at least an attack. I believe Iran's time will come but not yet... not when he seems to be pulling the strings orchestrating the when, where,why, and how.
Iran has a horrible track record on human rights and women's rights. Even their moderates are abusive - just less abusive, thus they are moderates.
Censorship is high. Support for terrorism is the political norm, not the exception.
State Department just said Iran is largest state sponser of terrorism.
I hope I don't get shot for saying this, but I agree with one thing that this quote said, " The official excuse is that western morality needs to be discouraged in Iranian society."
I believe women should dress more modestly. Nowadays, it is almost impossible finding blouses that don't show something of a woman's anatomy.
I think they are a bit extreme in how they are treating their women, but seeing how much the U.S. has fallen into moral decay, their fears are not without some justification.
OHh darnit! "The state department just said that Iran is the biggest sponsor of terrorism" DAng, that state department, so quick on the ball with those crooks. If only they acknowledged the crooks running their own game show, in the land of the fakes.
Leticia, you won't get shot for saying that... but we will arrest you, shove you into a cop car and you may never be seen again.
THAT'S really the issue. I totally agree with you about modesty. In fact, America exports immorality, immodesty and promiscuity and that's a legitimate reason some countries hate us. In fact, I'd like to see basic dress codes in public made more modest.... what some women wear in public violates indecency laws.
In Iran, however, too much hair on their heads showing results in arrest. One thing I love about Christianity is the equality to women and heightened respect it requires for women in society. Islam does the opposite and as we know, Iran along with many other Islamic countries are guilty of human rights violations against women.
I've really had it with these so-called "peace groups" Amy! They must be living in an alternate universe if they believe that they aren't in danger from Iran. Who do they think is funding the insurgents who are killing our troops? They remind me of children who cover their heads thinking if they can't see the monster the monster can't see them. It's pathetic! I wonder what it's going to take to wake them up? Never mind... I don't think I want to know.
Amy
You really do not know Islam. Islam actually elevated women as well, and gives them a lot of rights and authority. Yes, they don't espouse mid-20th century feminism as "rights," but they have a long track record of giving women authority in ways even Christians did not. They had all kinds of power over money, business, etc, while in the West only the man (or, sometimes, a royal woman) had this authority.
Things have changed in the West, in such a way people confuse the social structure we have now as with being the development of Christian thought. It isn't. It is the development of a relativistic, atheist society which says everyone for themselves... men, women... and anything they want to do is fine and should do...
I really wish people who claimed things about Islam studied its history; and people who claimed things about Christianity looked beyond 21st century America. Historically, the things people complain about Islam are also the things Christian nations also did; now we have no Christian nations, and secularism is rule.
How do you explain what is going on in most Muslim countries then? Divorce and property rights, marriage rights, etc., etc, etc all favor men.
I'll comment more later when I have time but you're welcomed to explain particulars... I understand honor killings are not validated by Islam, but there are some very troubling aspects of Islam as it relates to women.
On the other hand, one can say divorce rights favor women in the US, rape trials favor women in the US (even if the woman is a liar), all kinds of things "favor women." Hmm, sounds like you are sipping into the same drink other Western feminists drink.
First, there should be no divorce; second, it must be remembered the historical Christian perspective of marriage put the man as head, and his voice was law. Certainly the charges that Islam is anti-woman can be (and often is) used against Christianity as well. Especially if we look at standards from our current, feminist influenced, viewpoints.
Now it is interesting that, in Islam, women had more rights (property, business, and divorce) than in Western societies. Now divorce is not right, but in Jewish law, it was the man who had all the rights; if you are going to include it, it is interesting to note in Islam the woman has every bit a right to sue for divorce (and to get her own property) unlike what happened if a divorce happened in Judaism or other ancient socities.
The whole "burkha" for example is not a thing of Islam either, but of culture and culture being equated with Islam. Christians had similar laws in other times (look to Victorian England, if you must). Indeed, you will find some great Muslim writers (such as Gandhi's aly, Badshah Khan, pointing this out in his own writings, and created a revolution in India which included a revolution in woman's rights, based upon Islam, and went far beyond the Western ideal of the time.
OH NO!! hee.
I do wish that we could see women dressing a lot more modestly. Sometimes more is better than less.
No Amy,
You should realise that most troubling aspects of Islam arise from your bloated misperceptions of it, and all other faiths which you don't call your own. You just happen to be another right-winger trying tow the line of your counterparts in destroying the images of various cultures and religions around the world. This time it just happens to be at the expense of Islam and muslims, in the near future, surely another group will take its lead role as the villian of the Right-wing Christian movement.
Those issues you cited regarding marriage rights, property rights, dowry etc, all stem from poverty related problems. Where there is a massive lack of resources, there was bound to be a decay of basic rights and principles. This can easily be proven across history, and is not something that can be attributed to any particular faith or cultural group.
I guess Rosie O and the Liberals are right: it's all being set up to justify an extended war into Iran as well.
Hope you all have enough young sons to fill the roster of future dead soldiers...I'm sure women like Amy (who, by the way remind me too much of the mothers who were such vocal devotees of Hitler, of Khomeini and any other dictators you might think of) will be eternally proud to not only be Army Wife, but also Army Mother.
But how can all this even be surprising?
When has the US ever acted otherwise? Not in the last few centuries.