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« Berkeley Gives Code Pink Parking Space in Front of Marines Recruiting Office | Main | Pelosi Insists No Progress in Iraq »
Tuesday
12Feb2008

Berkeley Code Pink Protests Bring Vietnam Vet to Tears

By now you’ve heard the story. The City of Berkeley, California has passed two resolutions attacking the United States Marine Corps, calling the Marines, "uninvited and unwelcome intruders in the city."

The Berkeley City Council voted to condemn the Marines on January 29th as part of a campaign by anti-war activists to shut down a U.S. Marine Recruiting Center located in the city of Berkeley.

The votes attracted national attention bringing clashes between anti-war and pro-troop groups in Berkeley today.

Earlier this afternoon the ugly protests from Code Pink, et al, almost brought this Vietnam Vet to tears as he remembered the anti-war protests upon his return from Vietnam:




"(This is) the same kind of hate-America, anti-military sentiment that I encountered when I came back from Nam 40 years ago. It was wrong then and it’s wrong now."

He must not have heard that Code Pink supports the troops.

Berkeley academiacs and Code Pink might want to get up to speed on Who is Volunteering for Today's Military (DOD demographics report).

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I wish this video was on You Tube, Amy. I'd love to post it! The Code Pinkos are disgusting and I don't see how they can consider themselves Americans. That also goes for the city counsel of Berkeley!

February 12, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterGayle

Gayle, it is on You Tube as well. I post all videos on Blip TV and You Tube. Click on either and it'll take you to my accounts.

February 12, 2008 | Registered CommenterAmy Proctor

live now, large protest outside, plan on coming into the chamber at 9:00pm here :

http://www.ci.berkeley.ca.us/ContentDisplay.aspx?id=12798

or here:
http://www.ci.berkeley.ca.us/video/
or here

http://berkeley.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?publish_id=2

February 12, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterCalPatriot

Now on issue #19, the issues ( PST 7:58 pm)

25. Reiteration of Berkeley’s Opposition to the Iraq War and Clarification of the City’s Support for the Men and Women who Voluntarily Serve this Country in the Military (PDF)

they are coming up in a while.

February 12, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterCalPatriot

The Lord won't let me hate but Code Pink so thoroughly disgusts me I can think of no better word for how they make me feel. There is a reason those of us that live in Ca call it Bezerkly, heck they live next door to Oakland, the most disgusting city I have to go to on business and Berkley ain't much better.
Sidenote, hey Cal Patriot get in touch with me, I am in the Sac'to area.

February 13, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterGoat

OK. That one welled me up.

My brother was KIS, Tet '68...Quang Tri Province.

I have posted this video on our blog with the proper manners.

You rock, Amy!

February 13, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSnooper

Move America Forward was there yesterday in a counter-protest. I've heard there was a physical altercation but haven't seen any details of it, yet.

February 13, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSteph

Snooper, sadly it's people like you and me who care, not the anti-war folks doing the damage and causing the pain.

Steph, I wish Move America Forward was around in Columbia, SC when I used to counterprotest the weekly "silent vigils" by Women in Black and Cindy Sheehan supporters. It was just a few of us Army wives out there every week. I'm glad the movement is growing.

February 13, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterAmy Proctor

Amy, I'm so upset that these people are doing what they do and cry when their actions are returned to them, that I'm ready to tell every person in the military to quit asap, if a Democrat gets elected. Yes, I know that's a bad thing and it's silly to think that way, but sometimes... They are so underappreciated that it really isn't worth it to them anymore. If a Dem gets elected they'll lose even more benefits than what they've already lost and the Constitution is going to be rewritten. What would be left to defend but their families which they can do from here?

February 13, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSteph

But they support the troops so I guess there's something wrong with that vet.

February 13, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterAmy Proctor

Or he's crying because "they" support the troops so much. (Yes, this is sarcasm for the idiot code pink warriors.)

February 14, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSteph

What's really astounding is that Code Pink swears they just want to support our troops by brining them home yet they hold signs saying, "Join the Marines, travel the world, meeting interesting people AND KILL THEM".

Those are the real Code Pinkettes.

February 14, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterAmy Proctor

Amy, it's the difference between words and actions... the difference on the left if a chasm to rival the Grand Canyon.

February 14, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSteph


-------------- Forwarded Message: --------------
From: realpres@comcast.net
To: clerk@ci.berkeley.ca.us
Subject: KEEP THE COSTITUTION SUPPORTING MARINES (MILITARY); BOOT THE
REST.......
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:00:06 +0000
{As Usual; More News It's Negligence To Fail To Publish/Broadcast}



As Regards The Marine Recruiting Problem in Berkeley:

It rarely seems to amaze me that opposing sides on such important
issues almost always fail to come-up with the right answers to the problems at hand (almost as if there were "foreign" agencies involved, on both sides, ensuring that they didn't properly resolve the issues).


The Marine (military) Recruiting Post(s) in Berkeley are no exception. Like the various Ballot Propositions, since 2004 (at Least)---see http://www.californiachronicle.com/articles/3774 and http://www.californiachronicle.com/articles/3389 for more details, before they happened (as the Scientific Government Training Programs provided the solutions that would've prevented Every Major Disaster in th U.S., since 1988-89, also-before they happened----Again, the ancient ploy of divide and conquor can be seen, pitting the "microcosmics" (those looking through the microscope, who can see nothing else) against the "macrocosmics" (those looking through the telescope, who similarly-can't see anythinng else)-----thusly, ensuring that no true, net-positive, "doesnt cost you more than you get out of it" solutions
are accomplished.

If you weren't a student or expert on historical, "representative-government-opposing", strategies, you might simply chalk this off to well-meaning incompetence. However, a more microscopic and macroscopic, scientific analysis (as with the Ballot Propositions, since the presentment of the evidence and proof on how to correct these measures, permanently, in
2004-5, to California's Assembly/General Court) clearly-exemplify that the "constitution/representative-government-opposing leaders" of these efforts
don't want real, valid, solutions; they merely want so-called solutions that will
only cause more problems than already exist (so they can illegally and fraudulently profit from the new "symptoms and problems they cause", instead of actually effecting a cure). This is an old trick of the Marxist Newspaper "The New Mouth of the Empire: An Organ of Democracy" variety that differentiated it from Real American, Freedom-supporting, Newspapers (as Franklin's "Mercury")----whereby, instead of reporting news, of which they have knowledge, that will prevent disasters, they censor and
conceal such information from the public, allow the disaster, and multiply their
illegal profits from the increases in newspaper sales that results, as people scramble to get details on the disaster (the disaster that coul've, should've, and would've been prevented, if they'd timely-reported the news, as the populace generally considers they do, otherwise, they wouldn't fund such an enemy propaganda rag).

In the case of the Marine (Military) Recruiting Post(s), for example, if they'd reported on the New Scientific Government Training Programs (of whch most've had knowledge, since 1988-89), we'd have avoided the politically-motivated Iraq Invasions (I and II), saved thousands of military employees' lives, and prevented our resources (people and weapons) from being used to uncover and leave a trillion dollar oilfield (an Economic Weapon of
War, capable of purchasing hundreds of nuclear weapons and more) vulnerable to even-greater-enemy control and usage. We'd have implemented representative government there, already (properly-functioning grand juries; not the WWI and WWII-like German Reichstags and Chambers od Deputies, which aren't true representativ government, at all, but war-waging-entities) and had all but a highly-secured, stabilizing force in Iraq (much like the rather eventless one in Cuba), in about 6 months. Macrocosmicly, our troops would've been provided the Real Scientific Government Training Programs (not the counterfeit ones that changed from 10 General Orders to 12, which obviously-don't work) and attrocious events as those at the Abu Gahrib Prison (and worse) would NEVER have occurred, because they'd really know (and be able to prove) the requirements of their jobs, instead of merely-pretending to do so, with some rotely-memorized fraudulent representations of those jobs' parameters (that, similarly, leave them vulnerable to illegal orders for criminal gain, usually-others'----just like the leaders of these political action groups).

As with the still-uncorrected, since 2004-5, Bogus, Greater Problem Causing Ballot Propositions (and I'll use the most recent Term Limits Proposition as an example); instead of using tax-paid, PIRG, resources and efforts (to get signatures, etc. ) to "term-out corrupt officeholders", why didn't they use these monies, resources, and efforts to oppose reprovably-fraudulent Law Codes (and any precedents based thereupon; as was proven to be a means of "foreign" attack in WWII, with Dart's Code) and merely-support and defend the California Constitution, Article 1, section 16's inviolable right to trial by jury/grand-jury (or, at least, make and signify a Ballot Proposition that does so) and thusly-restore proper function to our grand juries, the only truly-representative governmental body (unlike Germany and Italy's WWI and II Reichstags and Chambers of Deputies), that we can "speedy
and publicly" remove any government employee who's proven guilty of crime, immediately (without having to wait until his/her term ends and be principals to their crimes in the meantime), AND ACTUALLY ELIMINATE THE PROBLEM? As Proper Grand Jury
Function REQUIRES the making and issuing of a Civil Debt (called a True Bill), everytime wrongdoing's alleged (either upon the accuser or the accused), as my copyrights reprove, if a Real Solution to the problem is what you're after, there is no other means of accomplishing one (EVERYTHING ELSE WILL REPROVABLY-COST YOU MORE THAN YOU GET OUT OF IT).

Relatedly, like the perverted tactics used by International Narcotics (which is reprovably-different from Constitutional Narcotics Law Enforcement) to recruit victims and their families into organizations as MADD (and others), which has to be among the "lowest of the low"----though I'm, of course, opposed to wreckless operation of a motor vehicle, especially while intoxicated. The recruitment of the victims (and their families) of the negligent-failures to
implement these PROVEN AND REPROVABLE Scientific Government Training Programs (reprovable before any grand jury in the country, versus any and all evidence to the contrary) that initially-caused the Iraq Invasions (I and II), failed to provide them with sufficient/available armament (which we had to prosecute to Congress to get for them, ourselves) and continues to cause their non-representative-government (grand jury) establishing prolongation of operations there, is inexcuseable. It isn't the Constitution Supporting and Defending Marine (Military) Recruiting Post(s) that these peoples oppose(d)
it's the opposition to the U.S. Constitution (Representativ Government) that they validly-reject (as Constitutional Support and Defense REQUIRES----which their family members, which have"passed", gave their lives supporting and defending). The microcosm of using American reources (our citizens) for constitution-opposing, criminal efforts (as Iraq and Eastern Europe, etc. macrocosmicly exemplify).

I encourage Berkelians (and the Council) to Support and Defend the U.S.
Constitution and DEMAND the closure of these Recruiting Post(s), until the
U.S. Military implements these Proven/Reprovable, Life Saving, Scientific
Government Training Programs (and refrain from opposing their oaths/verbal contracts of office and the U.S. Constitution; as they MUST reprovably-do to fail to implement these Scientific Programs).......thusly, preventing the recruitment of Americans to be used for
illegal, constitution/representative-government-oposing efforts, at home or abroad.
Moreover, I Volunteer my services as a Legal Consultant (with Who's Who in
America, World's Best Copyrights and Discoveries in the Law), to defend and
prosecute against any suits that may be filed against them for doing so. If
my Consultative Advice is followed, in fact, I GUARANTEE Legal-Undefeatability.
For any illegal-temporary-loss from corrupt program cuts, we will recover all
of the amonts lost (plus interest and compensation)----AND THE GOVERNENT
PAYCHECKS, FROM THEIR FIRST DAY IN OFFICE, FOR ANYONE VOTING FOR SUCH PROGRAM-CUTS (AND PROVE THE CUTS TO BE MADE UPON PRETENDED AUTHORITY)..........UNCONDITIONALLY-GUARANTEED.
Reagan (whom I consulted for in High School, while jointly-studying
Post Doctoral Courses) ran many of them out of the U.N., we'll see, if any snuck
into the house or senate in their escape.

Reserving Contractual Construction For Myself, always:

Dr Eric Durand, Ph.D......
Who's Who in America Scientist
925-695-6507(Messages)

P.S.: Don't Surrender Berkeley, You've Won...........Rescind Your Vote, Only
If They Teach Military Courses That'll Withstand Any California Grand Jury's Scrutiny (Versus any and all evidence to the contrary), as the California Constitution REQUIRES (Art.1,sec.16, etc.), as the Constitution limits your legal authority and the construction (meaning) of any/all previous votes........Sopport the Constitution, oppose the illegal-occupants of military offices (proven and reprovable before any grand jury) who oppose it......Don't let the opponents of the constitution trick you into opposing it further to
get rid of constitutional-opponents in office, AS WITH TERM LIMITS (it's an
impossibility, it only gets more difficult to get corruption-out and proper function in, that way-----and is easily-proven pretended authority).......

BEWARE: ILLEGAL USAGE OF THIS MATERIAL (WITHOUT INCLUDING DR. ERIC DURAND'S SCIENTIFIC GOVERNMENT TRAINING PROGRAMS, ETC.) IS AN EVEN WORSE CRIME THAN YOU'RE PROTESTING, IT'S ECONOMY COLLLAPSING, COUNTERFEIT......ECONOMIC WARFARE..........(AS I PROVED TO THEM, BEFORE THE $8-80 TRILLION DEFICIT).....A CRIME FOR WHICH A $500,000 REWARD IS OFFERED, UNDER 18USC3071.....


SEE TOO "THE ONLY LEGAL HECKLE" (ADS ON GOOGLE) "YOU'VE NEVER-ONCE SUPPORTED AND DEFENDED THE CONSTITUTION, WE WANT OUR MONEY BACK""WHY ARE YOU RUNNING FROM SOUGHT GRAND-JURY-TRIALS; WE WANT OUR SALARIES BACK?""NOT ONE GRAND JURY IN YOUR STATE WORKS PROPERLY, WE WANT OUR MONEY BACK"------ANYONE WHO FORCES YOU TO STOP OR FORCES YOU TO LEAVE (A RALLY, EVENT, ETC., FOR HECKLING-THUSLY) OWES YOU MONEY, AT LEAST.........THIS IS MERE CONSTITUTION/REPRESENTATIVE-GOVERNMENT SUPPORT AND DEFENSE, AND ALL ELSE IS OPPOSITION......AS MY COPYRIGHTS REPROVE,
DON'T COUNTERFEIT, DO IT RIGHT, AND TAKE-BACK YOUR COUNTRY............. MILITARY IS AN ENEMY EFFORT, MAKING US EVEN-MORE VULNERABLE TO ATTACK, A PROPERLY-FUNCTIONING MILITARY IS WHAT YOU WANT (GIVING YOUR FREEDOMS SECURITY),
DON'T BE FOOLED..........

Without the implementation of these New Scientific Government Training Programs, Recruiting Stations become tthe microcosm of Iraq's Macrocosmic usage of U.S. Resources For International Crime's purposes......getting rid of "our" military isn't the answer "brains", it's the problem......they've just done it with fraudulent codes, as they've done before (changing them to criminl agents, right before your very eyes), we just need to get them back, converting them back-into Agents of the U.S. Constitution, instead of the lieing, cheating, stealing, opponents of it (as youve complained they were).......{HINT: If you want the most and highest ranking/rating military officers to be from California, ONLY REQUIRE that bases in California implement the Scientific Government Training Programs, ASAP. The Constitution's Equal Protection provisions will do the rest.......advise full implementation, but, DEMAND CALIFORNIA IMPLEMENTAION----OR, EVEN-JUST THAT THOSE RECRUITED IN BERKELEY BE REQUIRED TO PASS THE NEW SCIENTIFIC COURSES, BEFORE ENLISTING, IF BERKELEY'S YOUR JURISDICTIONAL LIMIT}

February 17, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterdr durand

Nice work!

I'm here in Berkeley with my family, living as ex-patriot Americans in the People's Republic. The City Council has gone mad, and their encouragement has now made it possible for World Can't Wait! to surplant Code PINK in front of the Recruiting Office.

World Can't Wait! as a group seems willing to be punched - so they can claim brutality, or arrested - so they can claim injustice. Despite the problem with the Berkeley Police mistaking "neutral" for "passive", my sympathy is with them. They are caught between the 60's and the Anarchists.

I would like to start a group (Berkeley Marine Sanctuary) for people who support the presence of the USMC in Berkeley. My goals are 1) to supply material aid to the Marines (cookies and handshakes seem to be appreciated), 2)to support the Police in enforcing existing laws to control the protesters or put them away, and 3)to start asking Berkeley's quiet people to speak up, so the Council doesn't mistake volume for numbers, next time. I can be contacted at a yahoo email address, berkeleymarinesanctuary (at) yahoo (dot) com.

I met Roger Young yesterday - retired career Army and dad of a Marine - he has now driven up from Orange County twice to be sure someone counter-protests the World Can't Wait! thugs. In honor of the loose law enforcement, I double-parked upstream of the water boarders and megaphones, to thank Roger for his presence in Berkeley, and to apologize for being home with a sick kid while he was out on the sidewalk. I asked him if he was hungry and he said folks had been bringing him food and coffee coupons all day (yay!), so he was "all set". When I told him I was from Berkley, he smiled and said "but you seem so NORMAL!"

How sad is that?

Thanks again for doing what you do.

February 24, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterMondegreenMom

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