Colin Powell to Back Obama?
Saturday, February 9, 2008 at 09:25AM Sounds like it. Colin Powell willl appear on CNN's Late Edition this Sunday:
Anyone want to make a bet?
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He chose not to run for President, he made that decision last election cycle. He is more of a Washington Insider. He worked for both Repub and Dems administrations – intimately – for a long time. More like a pro-American. I’m not sure he can be identified with one party-group. I’m sure Obama would be happy for any type of help.
Powell has always identified himself as a Republican, but he's a McCain type Republican. He's a liberal Republican. When he turned down the chance to run for Pres. because his wife wasn't on board with it, it was a run for the GOP nomination.
I knew I didn't like Powell when he turned on Bush and the war and ended up being a co-conspirator with Richard Armitage in the Valerie Plame case. It was Armitage who outted her and Armitage and Powell knew it but said NOTHING, lettting Libby and others take the fall for something that had nothing to do with them.
I predict Powell will back Obama.
"Powell has always identified himself as a Republican"
That has been because the Rep. party in history has historically done more to promote A.A. to high-paying and top-gov.-offices than the Dem. Party. But that does not mean he was not a vital player in Dem. Administrations in history. Actually look up his bio and one will understand. He was an intimate with the Clinton Camp for eight years. That should have told you something. He was a Washington insider, who happens to be pro-American -- not really depending upon which administration is in the office at the time. Running on a GOP ticket a while ago was more feasible than the dem ticket.
Has anyone noticed the upside down politics? Everything I thought conservatives stood for is now not popular, and the liberal agenda sure seems popular among the voters in many way. Our we afraid of our believes, and is this due to the unpopularness of President Bush?
I am terribly confused. Am I missing something? McCain is the choice for republicans and respected Colin Powell is voting for a extreme liberal socialist. Wait maybe not, no one knows what Obama stands for. Other then he did not vote to go into Iraq. Wait he was not a Senator then, could not have voted.
Are we running away from believes?
I am sorry, but whats does he mean "Vision" Obama has no vision, other then a sermon on the mount of HOPE! And what does he mean restore America to world popularity? Since when does being popular keep us safe from terror?
Has Powell thought this through?
dtodeen, Republicans seem to honor the ones in the party who are next in line rather than who may be best for the party. We did it in 1996 with Bob Dole, who is an enormously good man but who couldn't win the presidency. John McCain is simply next in line and many feel for him because of his POW status. I also think the false mud slung at both Romney and Huckabee confused people turning them to McCain as well.
Obama is an empty suit. He NEVER explains how he intends to "restore hope to America", "give all Americans health care", or "bring a sense of optimism to our people again." He is a bag of rhetorical limricks.
Powell didn't say he would endorse Obama but all indications are pointing that way.
Amy,
Seems very clear in his words, yes? Also I am convinced Obama will win the nomination. Sadly, this is bad for America in countless ways. What more scary is the gathering steam of uncontested fire he is gaining.
empty suit wins White House! Looking more possible daily!
As for explaining the "how" that's Hill's job. Obama's job is to inspire. Either way, whichever one of them gets the nod, we democrats are going to be jumping for joy.
Not so with you republicans, eh?
Do you know what Obama's big message is? What the hope he represents is?
He reminds me, as a liberal, that the people in this country who are conservative, who are living in different areas from me and who may have different beliefs, are still my fellow citizens, and that the old antagonisms are exhausting. We don't need to listen to people telling us to hate people in red states or blue states. They want to like us, we want to like them. Aside from various policy positions (in some ways, I like HRC's position on specific issues) that is what his candidacy is about: that we have more in common than the political discourse of the past decades has represented.
Obama explains the "how" in detail on his website. You might take a look.
"Our we afraid of our believes, and is this due to the unpopularness of President Bush?"
It's due to the Republican party abandoning conservative principles. They have increased the size of the government, the spending of the government and the involvement of the government it our personal lives.
"Obama is an empty suit. He NEVER explains how he intends to "restore hope to America", "give all Americans health care""
He laid out a plan to make health care more affordable for some people so that every American could choose whether or not to have it. I know the talking heads told you there he has no policies, but this is incorrect. It just happens to be an easy narrative for the media to follow.
"EMPTY SUIT! EMPTY SUIT!" How people love to throw those words at Obama. Actually, I'm from Illinois. He accomplished a great deal in his short time in our legislature, and both here and in Washington DC he has shown the ability to work with others on constructive change related to substantive issues (like earmarks). He also has tons of position papers on his website, if you take the time to check it out. But it's more fun to just keep crying "EMPTY SUIT!", isn't it? Plus it doesn't require any actual research or the uncomfortable possibility of changing your opinion based on facts.
Just to clarify the above, I'm not suggesting that anyone here has to AGREE with Obama's positions. I'm just stating that he does have both positions and accomplishments, so the term "EMPTY SUIT" is not accurate. It's a lazy way of putting him down.
Amy,
Seems very clear in his words, yes? Also I am convinced Obama will win the nomination. Sadly, this is bad for America in countless ways. What more scary is the gathering steam of uncontested fire he is gaining.
empty suit wins White House! Looking more possible daily!
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Um, methinks there's already an empty suit in the White House - he's been there for a little over 7 yeras.
I hate to say it, but I suspect a lot of Powell's reasons go back to the way he was used by the current Administration to pitch the war... reasons that turned out to be misleading at best and outright lies at worst. Powell takes his honor seriously, and he knows that he's going to be remembered by history as the man who sold America the Iraq War. He watched them trample on sensible REPUBLICAN military doctrines he helped create... remember the Powell Doctrine? Overwhelming force? Clear exit strategy? No nation-building?
When a movement becomes too corrupted by false ideas, greed, and power, sometimes you need to burn it and sift the ashes. The Republican Party will rise reborn, but only after we realize that we were hijacked by a bunch of scum who mixed the worst of liberalism (big government, foreign adventurism, huge benefit giveaways) with a candy coating of conservatism.
If you say Obama hasn't been specific on policy, you might consider in what context and why. First, Obama has been as specific as it is reasonable to be in his book Audacity of Hope (a generic name, but if you actually read it, you can definitely figure out where he wants to head on policies) and when asked point blank in debates.
Secondly, where he has not been specific, it is precisely because the Clinton campaign is lying in wait to take any specific proposal that could be construed as controversial out of context in order to tarnish his campaign. Obama's restraint in this regard is the only reason her machine has not already overwhelmed him, but believe me, the Clintons would be ecstatic for any late help.
Thirdly, as all seasoned politicians do, Hillary makes absurdly specific policy proposals as though she would operate in an autocratic vaccuum upon assuming the White House (where of course she won't sit at all, because 50% of Americans hate her guts). None of these politicians is ever able to ram through exactly the proposals they promise in their campaigns, because lawmaking requires compromise with the legislature on those specifics. To his credit, Obama does not engage in this moronic charade, which is designed to appeal to stupid people who don't think even one step ahead.
You like that term "empty suit". How about empty soul? Beer drinking pope - how emblematic of your faith.
Perhaps the term "empty suit" is too abrupt for Obama. It's a generalization. I think he's a pleasant man, good natured and so on but his policies are indeed empty. He'll be crushed in debates with a GOP nominee.
I will say that my comment is based on what he's said and done (or not done). Jesus said to beware of judging someone's soul. Jesus drank and was called a drunkard by his own admission by the Pharisees. Even if none of that weren't true, what's wrong with beer?
I believe that my feelings about Obama, like millions of Americans who support him, have been influenced by the last seven years with George Bush as our President. Bush has lied to us repeatedly, has refused to execute the laws passed by Congress, has spied on us illegally, has bankrupted our country, and has been the most incompetent and unfeeling President in our country's history. I feel as though I have been through seven years of warfare. He has purposely played on our fears and our prejudicdes. I have had more than enough and I want someone who is going to lift up the spirits of our county. Hillary Clinton is a fine woman and would be an able President, but she does not inspire our county to get up off our backs and work to make things better. Obama does. And that, I believe, is his appeal to so many who support him. What good is experience if you can't give people hope? Why do so many people think she can bring about universal health care? She thoroughly failed 15 years ago when she was given the job. Why do we think that she could succeed now? Obama has the right idea. Televise all the meetings on health care on CSpan. Hillary did all of her planning behind closed doors. Let the sun shine in!
"Has Powell thought this through?"
Are you kidding me? Because Gen. Powell is widely known in DC as being exceedingly stupid. Show the man a little respect, even if he doesn't feel as you do.
Obviously some of you haven't (a) heard a complete speech or (b) been to his website where ALL of the issues and his plans for dealing with those issues are available. Do your homework - it's not just about soundbytes. He has plenty of specifics - like he stresses, it's not just governing from the top down - we have a responsibility too.
The only way for Powell to save his legacy is to support the Democrats this election cycle. And to apologize for misleading us into the war on Iraq based on false, and otherwise cherrypicked intel.
Seth is right. When Powell stood silently by and let the Bush Lied lie be perpetuated throughout DC knowing full well that Richard Armitage, his friend and also not a friend of the adminsitration, was the Valerie Plame leaker (along with Joe Wilson), Powell sealed his fate as a liberal darling and enemy of all people honest and good. This is an abrupt statement maybe I'll regret but he certainly showed his true colors.
Dave, on Obama's website are some bullets of things he wants to do... but I see no way he can make them happen as President. He has a better chance as Senator of fulfilling his wish list.